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Last update - 10:22 09/08/2007
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Peres' last sabotage
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By Israel Harel
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is easy to assume that some sort of political and media riot would have
erupted had an Israeli president published a plan to annex 100 percent
of the territories. Members of the media and political establishment
would undoubtedly demand he be deposed. And if the plan mentioned the
evacuation of Arab communities, the way President Shimon Peres' plan
calls for the evacuation of Jewish communities, then they would demand
he be tried for war crimes.
Is a president obliged to refrain from helping form diplomatic
plans, such as those that would split the country? (See what happened
in the Israel Defense Forces and Hebron over the evacuation of two
shops.) Not when the president is Peres, and the plan is to establish a
Palestinian state on 100 percent of the territories. In other words,
the plan reflects the opinion of many decision makers regarding what is
and is not legitimate conduct for a president.
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is reportedly "examining" Peres'
proposal "in a positive light." And no one is commenting that Olmert is
behaving like former prime minister Ariel Sharon did when Edna Arbel -
then state prosecutor and now a Supreme Court justice - and Moshe
Mizrahi - then head of the Justice Ministry Police Investigations
Department - were closing in on him in the Greek island affair.
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plan is based on the assumption that the root of the conflict is
territorial. And even now that the territorial concessions from Oslo
have proved the opposite - that concessions only bring more violence
and that Israeli withdrawals strengthen the extremists - the belief in
continued concessions has not changed and is a major component of our
diplomatic thinking.
Peres, who wrote enthusiastic articles in favor of the greater Land
of Israel in a journal I edited, and Olmert, who collected signatures
on a petition that stated "liberated territory will not be returned,"
and later guarded the settlers at the Kaddum camp with me, should know
very well that the main reason for the Arabs' war against the Jews is
ideological and not territorial, and that even a concession of 100
percent will not satisfy the Arabs.
This is why the 2000 withdrawal from Lebanon strengthened Hezbollah
and not the moderates, and why Hamas, not Fatah, won control in free
elections after 25 Israeli settlements were uprooted from the Gaza
Strip.
If the conflict were territorial, a Palestinian state would have
arisen in 1947 when the Jews greeted the partition plan with singing
and dancing; certainly the Palestinians would have been prepared to
accept the 1948 armistice lines as permanent borders. Ultimately they
would have accepted - following an internal crisis, which they probably
would not have overcome - the far-reaching concessions that prime
minister Ehud Barak made to Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser
Arafat in 2000.
But at the crucial moment, Arafat proved that even 96 percent of
the territory, including the Temple Mount, was not his real goal. And
now, with Hamas having won in free elections, will it accept less than
Fatah would have?
The extent of the extremism can be seen through what is happening
among the Arabs of Israel. A week ago, a delegation headed by Shawki
Khatib, the chairman of the Higher Arab Monitoring Committee, met
Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and demanded he refrain
from any agreement with Israel that is not acceptable to Hamas.
For Israel - and the Palestinians - the plan is liable to become
yet another disaster in the chain of disasters that the withdrawal
school brought after Oslo. The move will strengthen Khaled Meshal, not
Mahmoud Abbas. It is not the secular, pragmatic factions (if there are
any) that will win the gratitude of the Palestinian public, but rather
the jihadist factions.
Peres' plan will not be implemented because the territorial
concessions will not satisfy the Palestinians, and because most
Israelis, after the bitter experiences of recent years, have lost faith
in the Palestinians; in Peres, the father of Oslo; and in Olmert, the
deputy architect of the disengagement.
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Reflection
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David |
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GO AHEAD ABBAS, YOU ARE THE MAN
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indrajaya |
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HAREL IS RIGHT:CONFLICT BASED ON JIHADIST IDEOLOGY & SHARIA RULES
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G. Marcus |
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Ideology controls the territorial imperative
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Prophetess Hannah |
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Deception
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Esther |
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Decolonisation
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Tony Price |
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Thank you Harel , Increase pressure , let the word be heard
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Joseph E . |
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# 6, TONY PRICE
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indrajaya |
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Spot on
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Al Joo al Yehudawi |
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Utter Nonsense
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Natallie Durson |
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The right track
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Indrajaya |
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1-Israel Harel is right; but..
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Akram Zekaria |
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Ideology is too a high word
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CM |
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# 11, FAKE INDRAJAYA ALERT
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indrajaya |
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Alert # 11, 14 Fake Indrajayas
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Indrajayas |
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Temporary Absence of War
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SM |
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1- Israel Harel is right, but..& Also Peres-Olmert madness!
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Akram Zekaria |
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No jews in Israel goal of fatah and hamas, read their charter
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Johnny |
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We have tried the losing game...time to winning
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Terminator |
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Israel Harel is Right,No I mean Right
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Ronnie Wolman |
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Well, Israel Harel writes a few whoppers!
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Johnboy |
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Old formulas haven`t worked
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ScotGuy |
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NOT least is the ingrained Arab "honor/shame" culture.
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PETER SM |
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A PRICE.Glib comparisons.YOU are a colonist with no history or--
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PETER SM |
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The conflict is both territorial and ...
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Edith |
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When did this ideological war start
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Wael |
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Harel`s got it wrong
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Alex |
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Honor and Humiliation in the ME
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FOX |
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# 28, FOX
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indrajaya |
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There is no need for Harel`s warnings of failure and disaster
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S |
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Edith it`s not misunderstanding the Palestinian
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Hannah |
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Wael
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Margie in Tel Aviv |
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Alex
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Margie in Tel Aviv |
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The ultimate "red herring"
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Ivar |
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ScotGuy - don`t tumble for the Spin from In Da Dryer
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BriJ |
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split the country? Hardly...
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Mike |
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Ideology
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`wooden horse |
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these sabotage
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f.o.e |
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Ronnie Wolman, good morning.
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Akiva Patysh |
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Peres` last sabotage
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Ralph |
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RETAKE GAZA,HEBRON,SOLDIERS AND EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPY))))
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VOICE of MOSHIACH))) |
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To G. Marcus # 3.
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Dagma |
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ANOTHER ideological Issue.Al Jazeera today
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PETER SM |
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Nonsense!This has been a struggle for land,since the first
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lakshmi |
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Indrajaya laughing at the Truth #29
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FOX |
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MR HAREL,WHY JUST HINT?SAY IT!!
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Ian |
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To Natallie Durson # 10
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Dagm,a |
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# 45, FOX
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indrajaya |
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#44. Lakshmi is sadly lacking.
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Hannah the star |
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Mike #36 Well written
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FOX |
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#35 BriJ
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ScotGuy |
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Akiva: Pray FOR Oil or Pray TO Oil?
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Ronnie Wolman |
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Israel Harel is right!
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Josh Goldman |
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Relation between Terror and Occupation
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Tosefta |
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hannah 4
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realism |
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To Natallie Durson # 10 Utter Nonsense.
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Dolly |
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Peres ya kassul , Olmert ya falass ,
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Joseph E . |
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Indra, let us continue in your education
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FOX |
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What a simpleton
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Axel |
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To PETER SM # 43
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Missknowall |
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too simplistic..
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ravi |
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# 58, FOX
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indrajaya |
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Ronnie Wolman #20
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GABE 1 |
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Good Morning Tossefta
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FOX |
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If Harel can figure this out, how come the lefties can`t?
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bat yam |
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STOP ALL THESE FAKE POSTS!
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indrajaya |
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# 66, FAKE INDRAJAYA ALERT
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indrajaya |
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Fox and MIKE #50
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GABE1 |
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ideology or land?
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elliot |
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Territory vs ideology
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Yaakov Sullivan |
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Indra, how many did they slaughter?
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FOX |
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Thank you Gabe #68
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FOX |
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